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members. We have had partnerships with dozens of new democracies,
stretching all the way to central Asia. We have specific agreements with
Ukraine and Russia. And I think we will have to continue to modernize
the structure of NATO as we go along.
And I think more and more, the countries against whom NATO was once
organized--that is, Russia and other members of part of the former
Soviet bloc--will see NATO as a partner, not a former adversary, and you
will see further integration and further cooperation. That's what I
believe will happen.
European Union
Q. Yes, I'll start with Mr. President. Now that you are formally a
European, considering Mr. Prodi has given you the qualification, I just
wanted to ask you how do you feel about the position that's been
expressed by some members of your administration that there is really
not an adequate counterpart when they have to deal, for example, on
economic and financial matters? That there is a Europe, but there are no
ministers. Every 6 months you meet a different President of the European
Union. Do you feel that it would be better for Europe as a whole to move
further ahead into further integration, expressing better and with more
determination their position?
And the same question is for Mr. Prodi and for Mr. Guterres. Mr.
Prodi, I know you've been attacked and some people have been saying that
Europe is really moving back into some kind of national environment, a
national policy. Isn't that a negative development?
Thank you.
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President Clinton. Well, first, I think it's entirely a question for
Europeans to determine, how they should organize themselves and at what
pace this integration should proceed. But if you look at the roles now
occupied, for example, by Mr. Solana and Mr. Patten, if you look at the
work that the EU has done to get our common endeavors energized in
Kosovo, for example, just in the last few months, I think you have to
say that the European Union is growing stronger, not weaker, and that
it's growing more effective.
How you should proceed from here depends upon, I think, both the
attitudes of the leaders as well as popular opinion and will be
determined in no small measure by what the specific circumstances are
confronting Europe in the next 4, 5 to 10 years.
But as an outsider, let me just say, I think that whenever something
is in the process of being born, being formed, maturing, and you want to
understand it and then explain it to other people, which is what your
job is--since you're in the media, you have to first understand it and
explain it to other people--there is always the tendency to see in any
specific event evidence of a pattern which shows either that there's
backsliding or accelerating, going forward. I think you have to resist
that a little bit now because, really, history has no predicate for the
European Union. Even the formation of the United States out of the
various States is not the same thing. And we had quite a period of time
before we had a National Government, when we were sort of a nation and
we sort of weren't, when we were sort of together and we sort of
weren't, in a much simpler time, when the States had nothing like the
history all the nations of Europe have.
So I think that we all have to have a little humility here and let
this thing sort of unfold as history, popular opinion, and the vision of
the leaders dictate. But I take it, from my point of view as an
American, I think that so far all the developments on balance are very
positive. I believe we want a strong and united Europe that is
democratic and secure and a partner with us for dealing with the world's
challenges of the future. So I think it's going in the right direction,
and I think it's a very good thing.
President Prodi. Well, on my side, the answer is very simple. You
know that the rotation of power is as ancient as ancient Rome, you know,
and Rome became Rome and it began with the rotation of 6 months, as we
are doing now. [Laughter] But I can also add there is a rotation of the
President's Council, but there is no rotation of the President of the
Commission. And so there is some stability in this, on this power.
But I will tell you something more, just a hint, joining what Bill
Clinton told now--look, let's stay on the path. Let's stick on the
facts. The enlargement, resting on the facts, never happened in history
to put together 11 currencies, you know. Let's stick on the facts--never
happen in history to enlarge this democratic process as we are doing
now.
I'm touring every day in the new applying countries. And to see 12
parliaments working day and night to apply the new legislation, to
conform to the European legislation, is something that it makes
different with history. This is what is happening now. And so I am not
only confident that Europe is strong, but Europe will be the real new
event of the democracy of the 21st century.
Prime Minister Guterres. If I may add something. I think we have
achieved a lot, but we are not satisfied. We are going on. We have an
intergovernmental conference taking place now to improve our efficiency
in decisionmaking, our democracy, our transparency, and to make sure
we'll be able to cope with enlargement and, at the same time, to deepen
our integration.
And if one looks back at the recent Lisbon extraordinary summit, I
have to recognize that I, myself, was not expecting the European Union
to be able to take so many policy decisions in so many relevant matters
in such a quick frame of time, which proves that when we want--when we
have the political will to do that, we really can have good decisions,
quick decisions, and can find the right path.
So I'm very optimistic about the future of Europe, and I think my
optimism is shared by all those that want to join the European Union at
this moment.
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Middle East Peace Process
Q. Mr. President, it's been a very busy couple of weeks in the
Middle East, as you know. I'm wondering whether what's happened there
recently has created any new opportunities for the peace process, what
dangers it might have raised, and whether anything that's happened there
has given you new hope that the September 13th deadline for a
Palestinian-Israeli agreement will be reached?
President Clinton. Well, I think the decision of Prime Minister
Barak to withdraw the Israeli troops from southern Lebanon, in
accordance with the United Nations resolution, was, first of all, a
daring one which creates both new challenges and new opportunities. It
changed the landscape. And from my point of view, it imposes on--it
should impose, at least, on all parties a greater sense of urgency,
because things are up in the air again. So there is an opportunity, to
use a much overworked phrase, to create a new order, to fashion a new
peaceful order out of the principles of the Oslo accord and all that's
been done in the year since.
But from my point of view, it also imposes a much greater sense of
urgency. I think the consequences of inaction are now likely to be more
difficult because of this move. And so--for example, you have now--just
for example, you talked about the Palestinians. I think this will
heighten the anxieties of the Palestinians in Lebanon. Does this mean
that there is going to be a peace and, therefore, they will be able to
have a better life, either going home or going to some third country,
going to Europe, going to the United States? Or does this mean that this
is it, and there is sort of a new freezing of the situation? So there is
anxiety in that community. You see that in every little aspect of this.
I think on balance it's good, because I believe they are going to
reach an agreement. But it both turns the tension up in all camps and
increases the overall price of not reaching an agreement fairly soon and
the overall reward of reaching an agreement fairly soon. It changes
everything in a way that both increases the pluses and increases the
potential minuses. That's my analysis.
Q. President Clinton, sir, can you confirm if it's true that
tomorrow you will meet in Lisbon with Prime Minister from Israel, Ehud
Barak?
President Clinton. Yes. I will, and I'm going to talk to Mr. Arafat
before that, sometime today.
Yes.
Indonesia
Q. Mr. President, I'm from Indonesia. Since in the senior level
group it was mentioned the coordinated support for the President, Wahid,
and Indonesian Government, how do you feel the political and economic
development in Indonesia?
Thank you.
President Clinton. Well, first, I think it's worth pointing out that
it's the largest Muslim country in the world, one of the handful of
nations which will determine much of the shape of the 21st century the
next 30 or 40 years by whether it does well or does poorly. So I think
that everything that has been done to try to stabilize the country
politically and get back to economic growth is a plus.
And I suppose, like any outsider, my only wish is that more could be
done more quickly, because so many people within Indonesia's lives are
at stake, and the rest of us, we really need you to succeed.
Prime Minister Guterres. If I may say something that might sound
surprising to you--probably before this press conference ends, our
Minister of Foreign Affairs will fly to Jakarta. And under the
Portuguese Presidency of the European Union, it will be held, the first
political dialog between Indonesia and the European Union. And that also
shows the attachment we have in the European Union for democracy, peace,
and stability in Indonesia.
Russia
Q. The New York Times. Mr. Prime Minister, Mr. President, could you
share with us your impressions of President Putin and the extent to
which you see any prospects for some flexibility on a political solution
in Chechnya? And President Clinton, could you kindly expand a bit on
your discussions today about Russia? And on the eve of your trip to
Russia, do you foresee any progress on any bilateral issue, including
arms control, Chechnya, corruption?
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Prime Minister Guterres. Well, in our last meeting in Moscow, I must
say that I was quite impressed by President Putin's determination in
creating in Russia a democratic state based on the market economy and
rule of law. It was also clear, from our point of view, that even if our
views about Chechnya are different, he said--and he said publicly--that
he was committed to a political solution. And he also announced his firm
support to the inquiries to be made by an independent committee, his
will to see the OSC back, and to give better support to international
organizations involved in humanitarian help. And he even stressed in the
press conference that there would be people prosecuted for violations of
human rights in Chechnya.
So even if this does not correspond entirely to what we think, it
really shows a move and a step which I believe is in a positive
direction.
President Prodi. I confirm that there was a precise engagement on
concrete decision to make inspections and transparency more visible in
Chechnya for the immediate weeks, for the time that is in front of us.
Last question.
President Clinton. Wait, she asked me a question. Let me just say
this, to start with a negative and end with a positive, I would be
surprised if we bridge all of our differences on Chechnya, and I would
be surprised if we resolved all of our differences on the question of
missile defense, although we might make more headway than most people
expect. I'm just not sure yet.
However, I do expect that there will be two or three other areas
where we will have truly meaningful announcements that I think will make
a real difference--one of them, in particular, we're working on it. If
we get it done, it will be very, very important.
So I think the trip is well worth it, and even in the areas where we
may not have an agreement, in some ways that may be the most important
reason for the trip of all. We shouldn't only do these trips and these
dialogs when we know we've got a guaranteed outcome. Sometimes it's most
important to be talking when there's still unresolved differences.
Upcoming Meeting With Prime Minister Ehud Barak of Israel
Q. Mr. President, can you please explain the timing and reasoning
behind your visit tomorrow with Barak and tell us what you hope to
accomplish?
President Clinton. Yes. They have--first of all, all the balls are
up in the air as I just explained, and so there is both greater
potential for something happening and also greater tension in the
atmosphere, which is causing a ripple effect in the relationship between
the Israelis and the Palestinians.
Secondly, Mr. Barak and Mr. Arafat have set for themselves an
earlier timetable, as you know, to reach a framework agreement--not a
final agreement; that's supposed to be done in September--but an earlier
one. And there are lots of things that need to be gone through that we
need to go through if we're even going to reach the framework agreement,
because a lot of the toughest things have to be--they'll have to come to
grips with those just to reach the framework agreement.
So I have been looking for an opportunity to meet with Prime
Minister Barak. As you know, he was supposed to come to the United
States a few days ago, and because of developments in the region, he
could not come. Then he was going to come to Germany and participate in
an event to which he was invited anyway, and we were going to talk, and
then he couldn't do that because of a holiday in Israel. So this was the
only shot we had to do it and still have enough time to meet the
deadline that both he and Mr. Arafat are trying to meet.
There's no--you shouldn't overread this. It's not like there's some
bombshell out there. But we just really needed to have a face-to-face
meeting, and we needed to do it in this time frame. He couldn't come
last week to the United States. Then he couldn't come to Berlin to the
meeting to which he was also invited. So we're doing the best we can
with a difficult situation.
Prime Minister Guterres. Ladies and gentlemen, I must confess I have
enjoyed sometime ago very much a picture called ``NeverEnding Story,''
but I don't think we can repeat that picture and transform this press
conference in a new version. So, thank you very much, all of you.
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Note: The President's 190th news conference began at 2:49 p.m. at the
Palacio Nacional de Queluz. The President met with Prime Minister
Antonio Guterres of Portugal in his capacity as President of the
European Council and President Romano Prodi of the European Commission.
A portion of Prime Minister Guterres' remarks were in Portuguese and
were translated by an interpreter. In the news conference, the following
people were referred to: Commissioner Christopher Patten of the European
Commission; High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security
Policy Javier Solana of the European Council; President Vladimir Putin
of Russia; Chairman Yasser Arafat of the Palestinian Authority; Minister
of Foreign Affairs Jaime Gama of Portugal; and President Abdurrahman
Wahid of Indonesia.
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Monday, June 5, 2000
Volume 36--Number 22
Pages 1241-1269
Week Ending Friday, June 2, 2000
Statement on the Death of Governor Robert P. Casey
May 31, 2000
Hillary and I were saddened to learn of the death of Governor Bob
Casey. Over the many years I knew him, I came to admire his toughness,
tenacity, and commitment to principle. Those are the qualities that
helped the son of a mule tender in the coal mines of northeastern
Pennsylvania lead a life of dedicated public service, culminating in two
successful terms as Governor.
Throughout his career, Bob fought tirelessly for the people of
Pennsylvania, never losing sight of the poor and their children. That
devotion was reflected in his support of universal health care, tougher
environmental laws, expanded educational opportunity, and strong labor
protections.
As Governors, Bob and I worked together on many of these causes. And
when we disagreed, I understood that his views were based on deep
religious beliefs and a commitment to his convictions.
Hillary and I send our thoughts and prayers to his wife, Ellen, and
the entire Casey family.
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