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suspicion in the developing world when they are uttered by people from
the developed world. I understand that these words are code for ``rich-
country protectionism.''
So let me be as clear as possible on this. We shouldn't do anything
to stunt the economic growth and development of any developing nation. I
have never asked any developing nation, and never will, to give up a
more prosperous future. But in today's world, developing countries can
achieve growth without making some of the mistakes most developed
countries made on worker protection and the environment as we were on
our path to industrialization. Why is that? Why can they get richer
without doing the same things we did? And since, when countries get
richer, they lift labor standards and clean up the environment, why do
we care? I think there are two answers to that.
First, the reason they can do it is that the new economy has
produced scientific and technological advances that absolutely disprove
the old ideas about growth. It is actually now possible to grow an
economy faster, for example, with a sensible environmental policy and by
keeping your kids in school instead of at work, so that you build more
brainpower to have more rapid, more long-term, more balanced growth.
Secondly, we all have an interest, particularly in the environmental
issue, because of global warming, because of greenhouse gas emissions,
and because it takes somewhere
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between 50 and 100 years for those emissions to go away out of our
larger atmosphere. So if there is a way for us to find a path of
development that improves, rather than aggravates, the difficulties we
have with climate change today by reducing rather than increasing
greenhouse gases, we are all obligated to do it.
That is why, after the Kyoto Protocols, I recommended to all the
advanced nations that we engage in emissions trading and vigorous
investment of new technologies in developing countries, with an absolute
commitment to them that we would not ask them to slow their economic
growth.
We will see within the next few years automobiles on the streets all
over the world that routinely get somewhere between 70 and 90 miles a
gallon. In South America, many countries run on ethanol instead of
gasoline. The big problem is that the conversion is not very good; it
takes about 7 gallons of gasoline to make 8 gallons of ethanol. Within a
matter of a couple of years, scientists almost certainly will unlock the
chemical block that will enable us to produce 8 gallons of fuel from
farm products or grasses or even farm waste like rice hulls, for 1
gallon of gasoline. When that happens, you will see people driving cars
that effectively are getting 400 or 500 miles to the gallon of gasoline.
These things are before us. All these technologies should be
disseminated as widely as possible, as quickly as possible, so that no
nation gives up any growth to be a responsible environmental partner in
the world.
And on the human development side, I will say again, the globalized
economy prizes human development above all else. It is in the long-term
and the short-term interests of developing countries not to abuse their
workers and to keep their children in school.
Now, do we have all the answers to this? No, partly because the
circumstances and the possibility, even for trade engagement, from
nation to nation vary so much; but partly because we don't have more
forums like this within which we can seek common understandings on
worker rights, the environment, and other contentious issues.
We have suggested that the Committee on Trade and the Environment be
invited to examine the environmental applications of WTO negotiations in
sessions where developing countries form the majority. We cannot improve
cooperation and mutual understanding unless we talk about it. That is
our motivation; that is our only motivation in seeking to open a
discussion about the connections between labor and trade and
development, in the form of a new WTO working group.
And I will say this again, the consequence of running away from an
open dialog on a profoundly important issue will be--it won't be more
trade; it'll be more protection. The consequence of opening up a dialog
and dealing honestly with these issues will show that in the new
economy, we can have more growth and more trade, with better treatment
for people in the workplace and more sensible environmental policies. I
believe that. You have to decide if you believe that.
My experience in life--and I'm not as young as I used to be--let me
just say, at Thanksgiving a 6-year-old daughter of a friend of mine
asked me how old I was. She looked up at me and she said, ``How old are
you, anyway?'' And I said, ``I'm 53.'' She said, ``That's a lot.''
[Laughter]
Well, it looks younger every day to me. But I have lived long enough
to know this: In the words of that slogan that people my daughter's age
always use, denial is not just a river in Egypt. [Laughter] And the more
we hunker down and refuse to devote time systematically to discussing
these issues and letting people express their honest opinion, the more
we are going to fuel the fires of protectionism, not put them out. We
have to make some institutional accommodation to the fact that this is a
part of the debate surrounding globalization.
Now, I feel the same way about labor standards. And there is a win-
win situation here. Let me just give you one example. We had a pilot
program through our Agency for International Development, working with
the garment industry in Bangladesh to take children out of factories and
put them back in schools. The program got kids to learn, and actually
boosted garment exports and gave jobs to adults who would otherwise not
have had them.
We can do more of this if we lower the rhetoric and focus more on
results. Common
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ground means asking workers in developed countries to think about the
future of workers in Asia, Africa, or Latin America. It means
governments finding the courage to rise above short-term political
interest. It means corporations taking responsibility for the effects of
their actions, whether they're in an African delta or a New York
highrise. It means a new, more active idea of corporate responsibility,
stepping up to the plate to pay for vaccines or educate a new generation
of workers in another country as a part of the globalization economic
strategy.
Finally, let me say that the lessons from our history are clear: we
will--we must support the rules-based system we have, the WTO, even as
we seek to reform and strengthen it.
I think those who heard a wakeup call on the streets of Seattle got
the right message. But those who say that we should freeze or disband
the WTO are dead wrong. Since World War II, there have been eight
separate rounds of multilateral trade negotiations, hundreds of trade
agreements signed. What's happened? Global trade has increased
fifteenfold, contributing to the most rapid, sustained, and, yes, widely
shared growth ever recorded.
There is no substitute for the confidence and credibility the WTO
lends to the process of expanding trade based on rules. There's no
substitute for the temporary relief WTO offers national economies,
especially against unfair trade and abrupt surges in imports. And there
is no substitute for WTO's authority in resolving disputes, which
commands the respect of all member nations. If we expect public support
for the WTO, though--I'll get back to my main point--we've got to get
out of denial of what's happening now.
If we expect the public to support the WTO the way I do--and I think
almost all of you do--we have to let the public see what we're doing. We
have to make more documents available, faster; we have to open dispute
panel hearings to the public; we have to allow organizations and
individuals to panel their views in a formal way; and we all have to
play by the rules and abide by the WTO decisions, whether we win or
whether we lose.
Let me be clear. I do not agree with those who say we should halt
the work of the WTO or postpone a new trade round. But I do not agree
with those who view with contempt the new forces seeking to be heard in
the global dialog. Globalization is empowering people with information,
everywhere.
One of the most interesting things I did on my trip to China was
visit an Internet cafe. The more people know, the more opinions they're
going to have; the more democracy spreads--and keep in mind, more than
half the world now lives under governments of their own choosing--the
more people are going to believe that they should be the masters of
their own fate. They will not be denied access. Trade can no longer be
the private province of politicians, CEO's, and trade experts. It is too
much a part of the fabric of global interdependence.
I think we have to keep working to strengthen the WTO--to make sure
that the international trade rules are as modern as the market itself;
to enable commerce to flourish in all sectors of the economy, from
agriculture to the Internet. I will keep working for a consensus for a
new round--to promote development, to expand opportunity, and to boost
living standards all around the world. We will show flexibility, and I
ask our trading partners to do the same.
But I would like to just close by trying to put this dilemma that
you've all been discussing, and that was writ large in the streets of
Seattle, in some context. Now, keep in mind, arguably a lot of the
demonstrators in Seattle have conflicting objectives themselves, because
of the interests that they represented. The thing they had in common
was, they felt that they had no voice in a world that is changing very
rapidly. So I want to make two observations in closing.
Number one, we should stop denying that there is in many places an
increase in inequality, and we should instead start explaining why it
has happened and what we can do about it. Every time a national economy
has seen a major change in paradigm, in the beginning of the new economy
those that are well-positioned reap great gains; those that are uprooted
but not well-positioned tend to suffer an increase in inequality.
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In the United States, when our economy, the center of our economy
moved from farm to factory 100 years ago--and many people left the farm
and came to live in our cities; and many people from your countries came
to our shores and were living in unbelievably cramped conditions in
tenement houses in New York City and elsewhere, working long hours,
breathing dirty air--there was a big increase in inequality, even though
there was an increase in wealth, in the beginning. Why? Because some
people were well-positioned to take advantage of the new economy, and
some people weren't.
But then political and social organizations began to develop the
institutions which would intermediate these inequalities. And the
economy itself began to mature and disperse the benefits more broadly,
and inequality went down. When we saw, beginning about 20 years ago in
most advanced economies, a shift from the industrial economy to the
digital economy, in many places there was an increase in inequality. In
our country, we had a 25-year increase in inequality, which seems to
have halted and been reversed only in the last 2 to 3 years.
So a part of this is the change in the paradigm of the global
economy which puts a huge, huge, huge premium on education, skills, and
access to information technology, which is even more burdensome to
developing economies seeking to come to grips with these challenges.
Now, having said that, it should be obvious to all that the last
thing in the world we want to do is to make the global economy less
integrated, because that will only slow the transition to the digital
economy in the poorest countries or in the poorest neighborhoods of the
wealthy countries.
The answer is to look at what happened in the transition from the
agricultural economy to the industrial economy, develop a 21st century
version of that, and get it done much, much faster--not to run to the
past but not to deny the present.
The second point I'd like to make is this. We have a well-developed
WTO for dealing with the trade issues. We don't have very well-developed
institutions for dealing with the social issues, the environmental
issues, the labor issues, and no forum within which they can all be
integrated. That's why people are in the streets; they don't have any
place to come in and say, ``Okay, here's what I think and here's the
contribution I have; here's the beef I have. How are we going to work
all this out?''
That's why you're all here talking about it. That's why you've got a
record crowd here. And we all know this intuitively. So I think if I
could offer any advice, there are--there's thousands of times more
experience and knowledge about all these things in this room than I have
in my head. But I do understand a little bit about human nature and a
little bit about the emerging process of freedom and democracy. We have
got to find ways for these matters to be dealt with that the people who
care about them believe are legitimate. And we cannot pretend that
globalization is just about economics and it's over here, and all these
other things are very nice, and we will be very happy to see somebody
over here somewhere talk about them.
You don't live your life that way. You don't wake up in the morning
and sort of put all these barriers in your head and--you know, it's all
integrated. It's like I say, we've got the Chairman of the Palestinian
Authority here; we're working very hard to find a comprehensive peace in
the Middle East. We can't find that peace if we say, ``Well, here's what
we're going to do on these difficult issues and, oh, by the way, there's
economics, but it's over here and it doesn't have anything to do with
it.'' We have to put all these things together.
So I ask you, help us to find a way, first, to explain to the
skeptics and the opponents of what we believe in, why there is some
increase in inequality as a result of an economic change that is
basically wonderful and has the potential--if we make the changes we
should--to open possibilities for poor people all over the world that
would have been undreamed of even 10 years ago. And second, find a way
to let the dissenters have their say, and turn them into constructive
partners. If you do that, we will continue to integrate the world
economically and in terms of political cooperation.
We have got a chance to build a 21st century world that walks away,
not only from the modern horrors of terrorists and bio- and
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chemical terrorism and technology but away from ancient racial,
religious, and tribal hatred. Growth is at the center of that chance. It
gives people hope every day. But the economics must be blended with the
other legitimate human concerns. We can do it--not by going back to the
past but by going together into the future.
Thank you very much.
President Klaus Schwab. Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen, we have
just time for one or two questions. But before raising these issues, Mr.
President, I can tell you, and the applause has shown you, what support
you have for your plea for an open, rules-based trading system and for
globalization. But at the same time, what we take home and what suddenly
will influence our discussions very much over the next days, I think we
have--and we are all aware here in this hall--that we have to change our
attitudes, and that we have to create this human and social dimension to
globalization. It's in our own interest, and your speech, I think, will
be reminded and will be translated into the necessary action.
Now, Mr. President, just two questions. The first one: In your
reference to free trade and the WTO, you didn't mention China. And my
question is----
President Clinton. Yes, I did.
President Schwab. You mentioned it?
President Clinton. I did, but I don't have--I speak with an accent,
so--[laughter]
President Schwab. No, no. [Laughter]
President Clinton. I did, but I----
President Schwab. The question which I would like to raise is, will
you actually rally the support in your country and internationally to
get China integrated into the WTO?
President Clinton. I think so. In the United States, in the
Congress, there are basically two blocks of people who oppose China's
accession to the WTO. There are those who believe we should not do it
because even though--everyone has to recognize, if you look at our trade
deficit with China, everyone recognizes it's huge--by far, the biggest
part of our trade deficit. Everyone recognizes that we have kept our
markets open to China, and that if we had greater access to Chinese
markets, it would be a good thing for us. So no one could seriously
argue that the openings from agriculture and for other opportunities are
massive, and that it would mean more to the United States than any other
country since we buy--we're about 22 percent of the world's economy, and
every year we buy between 33 and 40 percent of all China's exports, and
we have a major, major trade deficit.
On the economic argument, the people who are against it say, ``Yes,
that may be true, but if you put China in the WTO, it's basically a
protectionist country and then America will never get any real action on
labor and environmental standards and all that because China will thwart
every reform we want.'' That's what people say.
Then, there is another group of people that don't want to vote for
it because of the actions the Chinese have taken to try to preserve
stability at the expense of freedom. They believe that even if China's
economy has grown more open, political crackdowns, crackdowns against
the Falun Gong and others have gotten more intense, more open, and that
it puts the lie to the argument that integrating China into the
international system will lead to a more open, more democratic, more
cooperative China. Those are basically the two arguments that will be
made.
Those both rate serious issues, but I think it would be a mistake of
monumental proportion for the United States not to support China's entry
into the WTO. I believe that because, again, my experience is that
you're almost 100 percent of the time better off having an old adversary
that might be a friend working with you, even when you have more
disagreements and you have to stay up a little later at night to reach
agreement, than being out there wondering, on the outside wondering what
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